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HJR 27 - WWII ALASKA-USSR LEND-LEASE MONUMENTS                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CHENAULT   brought  before   the  committee   HOUSE  JOINT                                                               
RESOLUTION  NO.  27,  Supporting  the erection  of  monuments  in                                                               
Alaska, Russia, and Canada to  commemorate the World War II lend-                                                               
lease program between  the United States and the  Union of Soviet                                                               
Socialist Republics.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  CHENAULT, speaking  as  the sponsor  of  HJR 27,  referred                                                               
members briefly to the written  sponsor statement in packets.  He                                                               
then called upon testifiers.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 0186                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHNE   BINKLEY,   Director,  Alaska-Siberia   Research   Center,                                                               
testified via  teleconference in support  of HJR 27,  noting that                                                               
he had served  on the board for  the center since 1990.   He told                                                               
the  committee  this   is  an  exciting  project,   and  said  he                                                               
appreciates Chair Chenault's sponsorship of the resolution.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. BINKLEY  pointed out the  lend-lease program's  importance in                                                               
affecting the  outcome of World  War II.   It was a  link between                                                               
the United States  and Russia to provide materials  in support of                                                               
Russia's efforts  in World  War II.   Fairbanks was  the transfer                                                               
point  where American  pilots  turned the  aircraft  over to  the                                                               
Russian pilots;  at the  height of  the program,  as many  as 600                                                               
Russian pilots were stationed there,  coming and going.  He noted                                                               
that his  own father was  in the Army  and helped to  support the                                                               
lend-lease  program by  hauling fuel  down the  Tanana and  Yukon                                                               
Rivers to supply  the different air bases  that allowed refueling                                                               
along  the way,  and his  mother worked  during the  war to  help                                                               
build ships for the program.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BINKLEY explained  that [the monument proposed by  HJR 27] is                                                               
an effort to  memorialize Alaska's participation, as  well as the                                                               
nation's, in the process.   In addition to direct efforts, people                                                               
all across the U.S. supported  the lend-lease program by working,                                                               
buying war bonds, and supporting the  U.S.  This is a memorial to                                                               
the efforts of those people as well.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BINKLEY  reported  that  he had  spoken  with  U.S.  Senator                                                               
Stevens in Fairbanks that very  morning, who is excited about the                                                               
project, not only as a veteran of  World War II, but also for the                                                               
symbolism of  Canada, Alaska,  the rest of  the U.S.,  and Russia                                                               
working together for  mutual defense against a common  enemy.  He                                                               
noted  that there  are similar  mutual efforts  now, not  too far                                                               
from Fairbanks, with a missile defense system.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 0473                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ALEXANDER  DOLITSKY,  Chairman, Alaska-Siberia  Research  Center,                                                               
testified via  teleconference, noting that  his father was  a Red                                                               
Army officer during  World War II, from 1942 to  1947, in support                                                               
of  the lend-lease  program.   He said  hundreds of  thousands of                                                               
Americans and Russians cooperated  in that important project, the                                                               
U.S. sent  more than $12.5  million in  aid to Russia,  and 8,000                                                               
airplanes  and materials  were involved.   He  stated his  belief                                                               
that without  the lend-lease  support to  Russia during  the war,                                                               
the outcome of World War II would have been different.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DOLITSKY told  members the  idea  is to  erect a  monumental                                                               
bronze sculpture  first in Fairbanks  and then in Nome,  with the                                                               
hope of attracting  interest in Canada, Montana, the  rest of the                                                               
U.S., and  Russia towards having  a similar memorial  but perhaps                                                               
with  different messages  and plaques.   By  doing this,  several                                                               
things  will be  accomplished.   Politically,  it  will bond  the                                                               
U.S., Canada,  and Russia.   Furthermore, it will honor  not only                                                               
veterans,  of which  there are  9,000  in Alaska,  but others  as                                                               
well.  And it will offer a role  model for young people.  It will                                                               
be  not only  a great  tourist attraction,  but it  will tell  an                                                               
exciting story  about an important historical  period in Alaska's                                                               
history and  the people  involved in  the effort  to win  the war                                                               
against Nazi Germany.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DOLITSKY pointed  out  that  it is  9,000  miles from  Great                                                               
Falls,  Montana,  to Novosibirsk.    The  Alaska Highway  evolved                                                               
along  the  lend-lease  route,  he  noted,  mentioning  it  as  a                                                               
transportation  corridor.    He  then  likened  the  memorial  in                                                               
Fairbanks to  the Eiffel  Tower in  Paris, saying  it will  be an                                                               
historical landmark in Fairbanks and elsewhere.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DOLITSKY   noted  that  although  not   in  this  particular                                                               
resolution, support  is being sought from  the federal government                                                               
and foundations.   He said it isn't a  controversial project, and                                                               
all  sorts   of  groups  are   excited  about  it.     Dozens  of                                                               
endorsements  have been  received, including  those of  [Governor                                                               
Knowles] and former  Governor Walter Hickel, as  well as [letters                                                               
and resolutions  in support] from  Fairbanks, Nome,  the Veterans                                                               
of  Foreign  Wars, the  Alaska  Geographic  Alliance, the  Jewish                                                               
community, and  others.   Mr. Dolitsky indicated  he has  been in                                                               
communication with  a government office about  a proclamation day                                                               
linking the  victory against Germany and  the lend-lease program,                                                               
and he emphasized the need to educate the public.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 0850                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE RICHARD FOSTER,  Alaska State Legislature, thanked                                                               
the  sponsor, Mr.  Dolitsky,  and  Mr. Wallen,  who  he noted  is                                                               
world-famous and had produced the  bronze bear in the court plaza                                                               
[in  Juneau].   Representative  Foster reported  that he  himself                                                               
grew up in Nome,  which had an Air Force base;  when World War II                                                               
started, Caterpillars,  bulldozers, and machinery  were impounded                                                               
by the  military, and  mining operations  were closed  all around                                                               
Nome,  so there  were  no jobs.   However,  the  building of  the                                                               
runway  at least  provided an  economy until  the base  closed in                                                               
1954.  He  said 77 Soviet airmen crashed and  were killed between                                                               
Fairbanks and  Nome, although  he didn't  know the  number killed                                                               
between Nome and Siberia.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. DOLITSKY specified that 133 [planes were lost] out of 8,000.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0984                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MIRIAM LANCASTER,  Board Member, Alaska-Siberia  Research Center,                                                               
testified via  teleconference in support  of HJR 27,  noting that                                                               
she  is a  captain  on  active duty  in  the  U.S. Public  Health                                                               
Service and  previously worked  for the  Veterans Administration.                                                               
She  said this  topic is  dear to  her, and  that she  is excited                                                               
about the  sculpture and the  process of people  working together                                                               
to put such a monumental work together.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LANCASTER addressed  three  major  differences between  this                                                               
memorial and others  around the country.   First, it commemorates                                                               
the synergy of everyday people,  including the pilots, mechanics,                                                               
and  support  people,  as  well  as  the  actual  P-39  aircraft.                                                               
Second, it  is one of  the few she  has seen that  recognizes the                                                               
role of  women, particularly  women aviators  who flew  the first                                                               
legs of  the journey for the  lend-lease program.  And  third, it                                                               
demonstrates North America's and  Russia's success in cooperating                                                               
for the greater good of all people.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. LANCASTER informed members that  as she looks at the drawings                                                               
presented  by   Mr.  Wallen,  she  finds   the  sculpture  itself                                                               
patriotic,  moving, and  informative,  shedding new  light on  an                                                               
important component of  that period of time that  few people have                                                               
heard  about.     Furthermore,  it  honors   veterans  and  their                                                               
families, who  sacrificed so  much for the  sake of  the freedoms                                                               
that people enjoy today.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1192                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT  PRICE,  Board  Member,  Alaska-Siberia  Research  Center,                                                               
testified  via teleconference  in support  of  HJR 27.   He  also                                                               
emphasized  how  exciting and  interesting  this  project is;  he                                                               
recalled  that while  at an  Anchorage museum,  he was  told that                                                               
many  visitors  ask about  the  lend-lease  project and  look  at                                                               
pictures there.   Mr. Price  said this  is a project  of national                                                               
interest.  He  commended Mr. Wallen for  his sculpting abilities,                                                               
mentioning the  fine bear sculpture  near the  Juneau courthouse.                                                               
He  also  noted that  HJR  27  will  assist  the efforts  of  Mr.                                                               
Dolitsky and other  board members in trying  to persuade Congress                                                               
to appropriate  funds for construction  of the project,  first in                                                               
Fairbanks and then in other cities.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1344                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
R.T. ("SKIP") WALLEN came forward  to testify as the sculptor who                                                               
will  build  the  memorial  proposed  in HJR  27.    He  directed                                                               
attention  to sketches  of  the  monument and  the  details.   He                                                               
explained that the [stone] plinth  at the bottom of the sculpture                                                               
would be  about four feet high.   Standing on the  plinth are two                                                               
pilots, each about eight feet  high, which puts their heads about                                                               
at about  [twelve feet].   Behind the  pilots, and  soaring above                                                               
them, is one blade of  the P-39 propeller, reaching [seventeen to                                                               
eighteen feet] into the air.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALLEN told  members the propeller is from  a P-39 Airacobra,                                                               
built by  Bell Aircraft  Company in Buffalo,  New York,  which he                                                               
chose  because  that  aircraft  was  delivered  in  the  greatest                                                               
numbers -  more than  2,500 -  through Alaska;  he noted  that an                                                               
improved version, the  P-63 King Cobra, was  delivered in similar                                                               
numbers.    The [P-39]  was  unique,  Mr. Wallen  said,  designed                                                               
around  a cannon  that  fit  in the  nosecone;  instead of  being                                                               
synchronized  to  fire between  the  propeller  blades, it  fired                                                               
through the center of the spinner,  which meant the engine had to                                                               
be  behind the  pilot.   A Russian  officer, Alexander  Akrushkin                                                               
(ph), had used  an American-made P-39 Airacobra to  shoot down 58                                                               
Nazi aircraft,  Mr. Wallen  noted, more than  [shot down  by] the                                                               
U.S.A.'s [aircraft], and yet the story is essentially unknown.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1502                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALLEN explained that the two  pilots in the memorial are, in                                                               
a sense,  symbolic of the home  front because the effort  was far                                                               
greater  than the  pilots'.   In  representing  the transfer  [of                                                               
aircraft] in Fairbanks, he had  decided to portray the U.S. pilot                                                               
arriving:   his flight jacket  is off; his uniform  underneath is                                                               
exposed, which  gives a chance  to show an  historically accurate                                                               
uniform and some of the insignia;  and he is smoking a cigarette,                                                               
"politically incorrect  but historically  accurate," or  having a                                                               
cup of coffee to indicate his arrival.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALLEN reported  results from his research,  reflected in the                                                               
sculpture:   Pilots  were required  to wear  a uniform  under the                                                               
flight suit  when stopping  at the major  stopover points  on the                                                               
lend-lease  route  such  as  Calgary,  Edmonton,  Whitehorse,  or                                                               
Fairbanks; they  always carried the Army-Air  Force Alaska flight                                                               
manual; and  officers' caps  started out with  a perfect  oval on                                                               
top, but  over time, from the  pilot wearing radio gear,  the cap                                                               
would form  an indentation known  as a "50-mission  crush," which                                                               
was the envy of younger officers.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1606                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALLEN turned  attention to the sketch of  the Russian pilot,                                                               
shown  departing,  with flight  gear  on,  including his  helmet,                                                               
goggles, and fleece-lined arctic flight  suit.  He explained that                                                               
unlike  the  U.S.  pilots,   Russian  pilots  frequently  weren't                                                               
assigned to  the program  as a permanent  job; rather,  they were                                                               
combat  pilots who  were rotated  and who  regarded this  more or                                                               
less as R&R  [rest and recuperation] because they  were away from                                                               
the front and able to fly  to Alaska.  Many were decorated combat                                                               
veterans,  depicted  in  the  sculpture  through  medals  on  the                                                               
pilot's uniform.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALLEN explained that the texture  of the wall behind the two                                                               
pilots simulates  the fuselage of an  aircraft, including rivets;                                                               
applying  a  patina would  be  done  chemically, resulting  in  a                                                               
camouflage  Army-green color  that was  used for  many lend-lease                                                               
aircraft.   Behind the U.S. pilot,  he hopes to stencil  the U.S.                                                               
Blue  Star  insignia  using  paint, just  as  the  insignia  were                                                               
stenciled on the  aircraft.  Similarly, behind  the Russian pilot                                                               
would  be a  painted Russian  Red Star.   In  time, the  insignia                                                               
would  chip  and  wear  off,  as happened  on  the  aircraft;  he                                                               
suggested  that from  time to  time, those  could be  touched up,                                                               
which would make them historically accurate.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALLEN offered  another story learned from his  research:  By                                                               
the  end  of  the  lend-lease program,  the  [Russian]  Red  Star                                                               
insignia  was  painted  on  in   Buffalo,  New  York;  therefore,                                                               
aircraft flying over  the U.S. and across the  prairies of Canada                                                               
and  into Alaska  had  the Red  Star  on them,  an  idea that  is                                                               
difficult  to  conceive  of  following   the  Cold  War  and  the                                                               
relationship between the U.S. and Russia.   He said it jumps back                                                               
to a period of better relationships.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALLEN called attention to  gear at the pilots' feet, perhaps                                                               
shoes and  other gear that typically  would have been there.   He                                                               
proposed to  use that as a  screen for floodlights that  could be                                                               
cast  upon  the bronze  wall  and  the  star insignia  at  night,                                                               
putting the pilots in silhouette.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WALLEN pointed  out that  on  the back  [of the  sculpture],                                                               
etched on  a bronze plate,  would be a  map of North  America and                                                               
Asia  showing the  9,000-mile lend-lease  route and  the transfer                                                               
point in Fairbanks.  He  informed members that the transfer point                                                               
was originally planned to be Nome,  but there was too much danger                                                               
of a Japanese naval attack there.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1780                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FOSTER  recalled that when  he was a  youngster in                                                               
the  1950s growing  up  in Nome,  there were  15  or 20  fighters                                                               
wrecked around  there, mostly P-39s  and P-40s.  He  told members                                                               
that  P-39s  were  obsolete  when the  war  started,  and  Stalin                                                               
"accused  us  of   pawning  off  old,  crummy   equipment."    He                                                               
suggested, however, that  it shows how skilled  the Soviet pilots                                                               
were to be able  to use those and become "aces."   The [P-39] had                                                               
the  nickname of  "little shaver,"  he  said, and  aces like  the                                                               
pilot  who shot  down 58  German  aircraft mostly  used them  for                                                               
strafing.  He explained:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     It  was  a phenomenal  aircraft  with  machine guns  to                                                                    
     strafe  convoys on  their roads,  and you  had to  be a                                                                    
     very skilful  flyer to  be able to  fly that  and live.                                                                    
     The engine was  behind you when you sat  there, and the                                                                    
     crankshaft went  between your legs up  to the propeller                                                                    
     so  that as  you burned  off fuel,  your ...  center of                                                                    
     gravity ... shifted aft.  So  once you got into a spin,                                                                    
     it  was very  difficult to  get  out, and  if you  were                                                                    
     alone, you  were basically  dead.   So these  guys made                                                                    
     the  best  use  out  of  that  to  stop  the  ...  Nazi                                                                    
     aggression.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 0852                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA  asked whether  the sculpture  itself would                                                               
be done here.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALLEN said yes.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CISSNA asked  whether Mr.  Wallen is  doing three                                                               
similar sculptures at the different sites.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALLEN answered  that the first project has to  be pulled off                                                               
first,  with  the  hope  that  when  that  goes  into  Fairbanks,                                                               
interest will  be generated in both  Russia and Canada to  have a                                                               
monument  in  cities  there.   The  sculptures  would  be  almost                                                               
identical.  Referring to the  sketches, he pointed out that there                                                               
is room  for four bronze plaques  on each side.   Each city where                                                               
this  would be  sited  would  have its  own  perspective and  own                                                               
points  to emphasize  about that  city's role  in the  lend-lease                                                               
program.  For example, Great  Falls, Montana, might emphasize its                                                               
role as  the jump-off point;  aircraft from all over  the country                                                               
were flown there  first, including those flown  by women aviators                                                               
who ferried  airplanes as far as  Great Falls.  By  contrast, the                                                               
Canadian  cities might  want to  emphasize the  search-and-rescue                                                               
aspect because of their involvement  with that.  And the Russians                                                               
would have their own perspective.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. WALLEN specified  that first the original  sculpture would be                                                               
done; molds would  be made from that; and then  those molds would                                                               
be cast  and assembled.   In response  to a further  question, he                                                               
estimated that from the time he  began the sculpture until it was                                                               
turned over  to the foundry, it  would be one year.   After that,                                                               
work would need to be done  at the foundry in Enterprise, Oregon,                                                               
assembling the piece and taking  care of details, which he called                                                               
the  worst  part of  the  job  because  it entails  working  with                                                               
grinding wheels  and "a  lot of  noise and  mess."   He remarked,                                                               
"The Greeks, by  the way, had this stuff figured  out 5,000 years                                                               
ago - wax casting."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1984                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. DOLITSKY commented on the  schedule, noting that if the funds                                                               
were  received  this  summer  or fall,  the  sculpture  would  be                                                               
planned  to be  erected in  Fairbanks in  May 2003.   That  would                                                               
include the  research, casting,  transportation, and  the opening                                                               
ceremony in Fairbanks.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 2011                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HAYES suggested  amending  page 2  of  HJR 27  to                                                               
provide a copy  to President Bush.  He noted  that the resolution                                                               
is  already going  to Vladimir  Putin, President  of the  Russian                                                               
Federation.   [No  formal  motion was  made,  but Chair  Chenault                                                               
indicated  agreement  and  no  objection  was  stated;  thus  the                                                               
amendment was treated as adopted.]                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 2064                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KOTT made  a motion to move HJR 27  as amended out                                                               
of committee with individual recommendations  and the zero fiscal                                                               
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 2085                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CISSNA  asked that  the motion be  put on  hold in                                                               
order to suggest  sending a copy to the prime  minister of Canada                                                               
as well.   [Again, no formal motion was made,  but Chair Chenault                                                               
indicated  agreement  and  no  objection  was  stated;  thus  the                                                               
amendment was treated as adopted.]                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 2106                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CHENAULT  referred back  to the  motion to  move HJR  27 as                                                               
amended  from  committee.    No  objection  was  stated,  and  he                                                               
announced  that  [CSHJR  27(MLV)]  was moved  out  of  the  House                                                               
Special Committee on Military and Veterans' Affairs.                                                                            

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